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Stefan Woehrmann2 Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 9:29 pm Subject: Re: Sign-Symbol -Sequence here: variation | ||||||||||||
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Hi Valerie and SW List members thank you for your explanations - now I understand - and I guess it is pretty helpfull to clarify the term definitions - On my search with google on signwriting.org website I found a hint and read the article about : Supporting Deaf Sign Languages in Written Form on the Web" from Antonio Carlos da Rocha Costa a friendly hello to the folks in Brazil - on page 2/12 he says : The set of information concerning a symbol being used in a sign comprised , at the end, seven items : ..... - variation (indicating complementary transformations) .... I am far away from understanding these software problems and I admire and feel so gratefull to those who provide these wonderfull programs so that I as a user can work with them in order to create more SW literatur for my students . So there is another definition of "variation" - is this true ? May be Carlos can comment on this ? So all in all your answer is a great help to go on with my private understanding of your incredible job on typing thousands of symbols in order to complete some sunny morning the SSS. Bye for now Stefan ;-) Of course I know about the difference between a symbol and a sign and in the ----- Original Message ----- From: Valerie Sutton To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Sign-Symbol -Sequence here: variation > >Can you give me a hint - What does "variation" of any given sign mean ?? > >Can you show an example ? > > > SignWriting List > October 3, 2001 > > Dear SW List and Stefan - > Thank you for this question. > > Variations in SymbolBank refer to minute differences in symbol > construction...I have not listed any variations on the web yet, > because I am still busy just trying to do the GIFs for the most used > symbols, which are all variation one...the SymbolBank will expand as > time permits, and someday there will be variations listed as well. > > I have my own terminology specific to SignWriting. I know others use > different terms...but for SignWriting, we use these term definitions: > > 1. a "symbol" is similar to one letter in the Roman alphabet (when > writing spoken languages). A symbol has no meaning, other than to > describe the way something looks or moves. > > 2. a "sign" - is like a "word" (when writing spoken languages)...A > sign is a "group of SW symbols"...just like a word is a group of > alphabetic letters.... > > > so: > > SymbolBank is only a listing of all the symbols in Sutton Movement > Writing... The Sign Symbol Sequence is not talking about "signs", but > instead "symbols". It is the order that the symbols are placed, when > sorting dictionaries in SignWriting. > > In regards to the term "variation"... > > Obviously signs can have variations, in different dialects of signed > languages... > > But when using the term "variation" in SymbolBank, we are talking > about differences in the way one symbol is written... > > For example, a variation of a hand symbol can be a tiny minute > difference in the amount of bending done...for example....take the > symbol that is used for the letter X in many fingerspelling > systems...imagine if we wanted to write a minute difference in the > way that handshape bent its finger...making one finger open more or > close more...those variations can be written in SignWriting, but they > are more for researchers, and so I will add them last to the > SymbolBank... > > Sorry for my long response! > > I am done over 1000 gifs this week, and I get dizzy from it - ha! > > Val ;-) > | ||||||||||||
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