| SignWriting 
                      ListJune 28, 2001
 ANSWER, PART TWO:Next, let us look at the ASL sign for "twenty" 
                      and its changing spelling over the years. It has been written 
                      four ways in the past:
  
                     
                       
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                               | 1. Before Finger 
                          Movement Symbols were developed, we used arrows to show 
                          the movement of the fingers touching the thumb. But 
                          the arrows were not read properly. They were mistaken 
                          for the WHOLE arm moving down twice. |   
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                               | 2. So, by taking 
                          the stems of the arrows away, leaving only the arrowheads, 
                          the new Finger Movement Symbols could not be confused 
                          with arm movement. Notice the arrowheads are near the 
                          "position of contact". |   
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                               | 3. We wanted 
                            to write only one position, because it was faster. 
                            Which position did we keep, and which one did we throw 
                            out? The sign for "twenty" 
                            in ASL is recognized "as the index and thumb 
                            contacting twice". Without the contacting position, 
                            we could not read the sign properly. So we kept the 
                            "position of contact".  |   
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                               | In fact, the contacting 
                          position is so important, that some of us write contact 
                          symbols instead of the Finger Movement Symbols...and 
                          we read the sign well!! The sign for "twenty" 
                          can be written with contact stars too... |  | 
                 
                  | SignWriting ListJune 28, 2001
 ANSWER, PART THREE:So writing a sign with two fingers and a thumb is similar 
                      to the sign for "twenty" in ASL:
  
                     
                       
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                               | 1. The sign could 
                          be written with both the beginning and ending position. 
                          This is the most accurate. |   
                        |  | 2. One position could 
                          be written. This writing assumes that the "position 
                          of contact" is the most important. |   
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                               | 3. Or you could use 
                          contact stars... |   
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                               | 4. So what about 
                          the Finger Movement Symbols on top of the first position? 
                          There is nothing wrong with that, except I would not 
                          read that as contacting at the end. I would assume that 
                          a hinge-like motion is occurring twice without touching 
                          fingers. |  |